Wednesday, December 28, 2011

157 Rabbis sign "The Torah Declaration" on Homosexuality. Excellent.

Going strongly and directly against the three-year long campaign of President Obama's administration to push for homosexuality education and other things in our schools, and elsewhere, these 157 rabbis so far and more to come, stand up and out for a sound approach to homosexuality in our society today. Take a look.

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2 comments:

  1. The "Torah Declaration" attempts to help Jews. But instead it hurts them because it promotes the view that people with same sex attractions can actually be "cured" or changed into people with only opposite sex attractions. It has adopted the view of reparative therapy that childhood damage causes homosexuality, and that it can be cured. The problem with that is that this is really just wishful thinking and not true. The very people that would be willing to forgo the prohibited behaviors often also would very much like to believe that they can actually "convert" not only the lifestyle but the actual attractions completely. They end up finding out years later after this approach that is not the case and are devastated. This results in some suicides and leaving the faith.

    Aside from all the mainstream psychiatric, psychological, social work, the World Health Organization and counselling groups even many experts among people that have been involved in "reparative therapy" mostly agree on this. It does not work in changing orientation.

    Dr. Abba Borowich, an Orthodox psychiatrist who practiced reparative therapy for Orthodox homosexuals for nearly 30 years concluded that this was an ineffective course of therapy which only increased suffering among his patients and their families .

    Rabbi Chaim Rapoport, an ultra-Orthodox rabbi who is the author of Judaism and Homosexuality: An Authentic Orthodox View, has said, "I am not obligated to believe in a failed therapy because it fits my theology better."


    The leader of Exodus the largest public group of people (several hundreds) who changed from a gay to heterosexual lifestyle admits that this does not include an end of same sex attraction for 99.9% of the group.
    "There has been a change in our beliefs about orientation change focused therapy and we don’t believe it’s effective.”

    Dr. Spitzer
    “If people can recognize that being a homosexual is something that cannot be changed and that efforts to change are going to be disappointing and can be harmful, if that can be more widely known that would be very good. "

    Another issue is that the Declaration group
    led by Rabbi Kamenetsky, primarily relies on
    and promotes
    someone who is of bad character, who has a history of misleading people for profit, Arthur Goldberg of Jonah.
    See
    http://www.southfloridagaynews.com/news/national-news/547-ex-gay-is-ex-con.html

    This organization has many problems
    aside from a criminal history.
    It can't provide any proof of change, It has relied on crackpot therapies that have included touching that is prohibited by the Torah, and it relies primarily, and in great detail on the idea that Jesus will provide the change.

    I hope that in spite of what they must have experienced the twenty-five people
    that have gone through the Torah Declaration path will have happy Torah lives, but those that want to be faithful to the Torah's sexual prohibitions can get help to succeed without quack therapy.

    Orthodox religious therapists and rabbis have an alternative to this Declaration. See
    statementofprinciplesnya.blogspot.com

    Without having clear evidence that a treatment is effective you cannot in good conscience recommend an unproven treatment that can cause undo pain, suffering, and death as the signers of this declaration have done.

    The many rabbis that signed this other statement are truly concerned for both the 0.5% and the 99.5% group and have not endorsed a failed therapy because it would fit better with their theology.

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    1. Thank you John-Pierre for your comments above. They are most interesting. I think the reference you direct us to is most helpful and I recommend that all read it:

      statementofprinciplesnya.blogspot.com

      Again, thank you. Ken Godevenos.

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