Showing posts with label pagan christianity. Show all posts
Showing posts with label pagan christianity. Show all posts

Wednesday, January 26, 2011

Should the Governor Have Apologized To the Theologically Illiterate?

A fascinating story that only Christians can appreciate. Take a look.

Baptist Press - FIRST-PERSON: The Ala. controversy & theological illiteracy - News with a Christian Perspective



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Sunday, January 23, 2011

Dealing with Religious Intolerance

Two government officials, two deaths, two different systems, two religions, two different outcries.  Cathy Young writes about all this in her very insightful blog. Basically with the events, especially in Pakistan this past month, we can no longer ignore the issue of "religious intolerance" among Islamic countries.  Certainly we cannot ignore its magnitude.

She writes, "There is not a single majority Christian nation today that executes or imprisons people for blasphemy or apostasy."  Finally glad that somebody noticed.  And the same is true of Jews.  But that is not the case in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, to name a few.  And it's not just the leaders.  In Egypt, 85% of the population support the death penalty for anyone converting from Islam to another faith.  Imagine.


Now don't go running back to her or to me to suggest that "hey, what's the problems?  Do you forget the Crusades?"  No, I don't and neither does Young.  The point is Christianity changed.  It was never meant to be like that.  Also, as trite as this may sound -- that was over and done with, and this is going on right now in Islam.  There are no plans to change it because radicals believe that is what Islam is all about.  And then of course there is the push for Sharia Law to be enacted anywhere there are Muslims.


Young and most of us recognize that all Muslims are not cut from the same cloth.  They are not.  But that's not the way the radicals see it.  To them, all Muslims must be cut from their cloth -- even if they have to kill some of them to get the others to be so.

Okay, so how do we recognize these problems and how to we honestly confront them?  Cathy Young offers no real solutions.  Except, that America must be more tolerant.  That's a nice thing to say.  When all your cheeks have disappeared with your own martyrs, there will be none left to turn.  But then again, there will no longer be any need for tolerance.   Take a look at her thoughts and then share yours.

Perhaps for those of us that are Christians, the only answer is indeed an "individual one" -- a stronger and stronger personal relationship with the true God through Jesus Christ His Son.  More and more people are turning that Way.

You can read Cathy's viewpoint which gave rise to my comments in the link below:

RealClearPolitics - Islam and the Intolerance Problem



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"Pagan Christianity" by Viola & Barna: For, Neutral, and Against

Over the last year or so I have been bombarded on FB and other media by some of my Christian friends who are "hell-bent" against church buildings, paid pastors, tithing, and so much more that I, to date, have been a believer in.  In fact, some of them are what many in our Christian faith call "the emergent church".  And to be honest with you it bothered me and still does.  Not so much about what they think but how negative they are against the traditional church -- the place where most of them actually came into a relationship with Jesus Christ.

Last night, my wife and I were out with some very good friends with whom we attended a relatively large evangelical church for thirteen years before we moved on.  My friend had just read "Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola and George Barna.  And he started sharing with me some of the contents.  While he was most positive about his comments and careful not to be negative about "church as we both knew it", I quickly recently all the positions I had heard from my FB friends were covered or introduced in this book.  He offered to lend it to me and I offered to read it in the very near future.

However, after church today I wanted to do some research on my own on the book and I did.  Let me share with you two reviews.  One is posted by Willow Creek Association in an effort to open dialogue .on the ideas presented by Viola and Barna.  It is however written by Viola and Barna.

Take a look by clicking here.

Willow Creek remained neutral on the topic although they did imply they were not in agreement with some of the ideas in the book.  Obviously, Viola and Barna, the actual authors, were and this first review supports that clearly -- as expected.  So read that one first.

The second review is the first of a series taking issue with some of the positions taken by Viola and Barna, with some scripture to back it up.  This review is from the "Got Questions?Org" blog.  After you read this blog make sure you pursue some of the other topics in response to Viola and Barna in suggested links at the bottom of the blog.


Take a look at this review by clicking here.

There is no doubt in my mind that the "church" as we know it needs to evolve into being "filled with the fullness of God" (Ephesians 3:19) as Paul prayed for the Church at Ephesus.  However, I am not convinced that we must throw out "every baby" with "each tub of dirty water".   I'd like to hear your thoughts through your comments below.

 
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