tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12379286.post2848264854733690824..comments2023-12-29T10:55:36.569-05:00Comments on epistoli: My Problem With 'Universalism'? Jesus' Words.Epistoli by Ken Godevenoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01007714849847693479noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12379286.post-17382848664214700002012-03-04T23:33:43.889-05:002012-03-04T23:33:43.889-05:00Interesting comment. Perhaps you can provide some...Interesting comment. Perhaps you can provide some proof for that statement. And while you're at it, why not "come out of the anonymous closet"?Epistoli by Ken Godevenoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007714849847693479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12379286.post-19950287889410942952012-03-03T16:09:30.407-05:002012-03-03T16:09:30.407-05:00Why did the first christians teach universalism fo...Why did the first christians teach universalism for 500 years until paganism entered the church?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12379286.post-62794825489702450202011-06-26T13:27:29.988-04:002011-06-26T13:27:29.988-04:00Dear Anonymous: Let me try and respond to some of...Dear Anonymous: Let me try and respond to some of your comments and insights.<br /><br />Yes, Jesus did say He died for the salvation of all men. But there is a difference between one "dying for all" and "all being saved by that death". The best example I have is this: Executive buys tickets to Disneyland for all his/her employees, but not all end up going by their choice.<br /><br />Those that died before Jesus the Bible tells us will be judged based on their response to God in accordance with the understanding that God has put in the heart of all men and women.<br /><br />You're right, an unconditionally loving God does not give up on you. His Spirit convicts you (not condemns you) of your sin but always shows you the way out through His Son Jesus Christ. It's up to you to accept it or not.<br /><br />There is nothing that I read in the Scriptures that talks about hell being temporary. All of us have plenty of opportunities to see the error of our ways before we die.<br /><br />Yes, there is no doubt that many translations and versions of the scriptures out there do not portray the exact original meanings or words. Yes, even the KJV is subject to that. But God sees to it that His Word goes on.<br /><br />Friend, keep on seeking the truth about God. He wants us to. Stick to Scripture and to your personal relationship with Jesus Christ -- He will reveal things to you in your heart. Verify those with Scripture and hold on to them.<br /><br />Having said that, let me say that many struggle with "hell" as I did for many years. I still do not know everything there is to know about it. But I can tell you this. Scripture speaks about it clearly. If we try to shy away from what Scripture says and pretend it's not clear, it may well be because we don't like the concept.<br /><br />I'd be delighted to answer more of your questions, so please don't hesitate to keep on asking me. Also, when you get to the point where you feel comfortable identifying yourself, you can write to me directly and privately at my email address: kgod@accordconsulting.com<br /><br />Blessings, Ken Godevenos.Epistoli by Ken Godevenoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007714849847693479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12379286.post-46334547074589822052011-06-25T22:46:14.984-04:002011-06-25T22:46:14.984-04:00Dear Anonymous: Thanks for your comment. Some ve...Dear Anonymous: Thanks for your comment. Some very interesting thoughts. I just had a chance to read them and I'll get back to you with a reply in the very near future. Hang in there. Blessings. Ken.Epistoli by Ken Godevenoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007714849847693479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12379286.post-73444019730704473182011-06-25T20:25:30.667-04:002011-06-25T20:25:30.667-04:00I do not have any backup for this at the moment: b...I do not have any backup for this at the moment: but didn't Jesus say he died for the salvation of ALL men??<br /><br />If hell is an eternal place, than everyone who died before Jesus will find themselves in a major jeopardy.<br /><br />Now, if you accept the fact Jesus can indeed save people from hell, you can infer that when Jesus said he came for the salvation of ALL men, he meant from all of the Earth all the way to hell. <br /><br />That being said, an unconditionally loving god would never give up on you, right?<br /><br />Couldn't you then state that maybe hell is not a place where if you did not do everything on Earth right or did not accept Jesus at the time, you will suffer forever, even though you will have knowledge of your doing wrong in hell (this is in the Bible, again don't have sources at the moment) and will most likely feel sorry for it.. but maybe a place to punish you for a temporary amount of time so that you may see the error in your ways and turn to Jesus?<br /><br />Also, I believe the KJV Bible may of been corrupted at some point in time. <br /><br />Some facts on that on this website here:<br />http://www.tentmaker.org/books/GatesOfHell.html<br /><br /><br /><br />Not trying to impose beliefs here, I just want to see your reaction.. I am personally very young in my Christian growth and am just seeking the truth about God, about what he really is.. not what man has tried to turn him in to in order to force legalism onto man as well as incorporating pagan concepts such as "hell" into the sacred book of the Bible, by taking advantage of translation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com