Monday, July 18, 2011

Finally National Newspaper (Wash. Times) Columnist Calls for B.O.'s Impeachment

Wow. What a summary. Worth reading every word and Kuhner's columns that came after this one too. Take a look.

(Anyone who thinks I'm crazy -- just has no idea of how bad things are in the United States and how poorly this president is thought of. I won't even talk about the continued undeniable evidence (and it has not been denied) that his birth certificate his office released is a forgery. By the way, why would the U.S. have a president that forges a document his office releases? Anyone else would be politically and possible criminally 'hung' for such action.) Anyway, the giant media may be waking up.

KUHNER: President's socialist takeover must be stopped - Washington Times



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6 comments:

  1. Anonymous19/7/11 00:34

    There is nothing in the article you refer to that claims that Obama's birth certificate was forged, nor is there ANY article by the Washington Times that does that.

    The reason that dozens of senators and congressmen have sent letters saying that Obama was born in Hawaii and none is calling for an investigation of his place of birth, and the reason that all eight declared Republican presidential candidates say that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the reason that Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly call birthers crazy is that the evidence that he was born in Hawaii is overwhelming.

    1. Obama has now shown both his short-form and long-form birth certificates, which THREE Republican officials in Hawaii have stated are accurate regarding the place of birth.

    2. There were notices of birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961. The claim that the notices could have been placed by lying relatives turns out to be false because whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.

    3. IF a child is born outside of the USA, the US insists on either a US visa on a foreign passport or the child being entered on his mother's US passport before being allowed to enter the USA. If such a document existed for Obama in 1961--PARTICULARLY if the birth was in Kenya--it would have been filed away, and the application for it would have been filed away--and the document itself or the application for it would have been found long ago.

    4. WND reported that the US Immigration and Naturalization Service checked on Obama's place of birth TWICE, with five years between the two checks, and each time it concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii. WND then asked how the INS concluded that fact. The answer to that question is obvious. What does the INS normally do to check the place of birth? It asks for the birth certificate. So the US government, the US INS, in the 1960s and 1970s asked to see Obama's birth certificate, saw it, and concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Also, there is NO Kenyan document (except for obvious forgeries). And, there is NO Kenyan document even showing that Obama's mother was in Kenya in 1961. And WND recently reported that the conclusion of Kenya's investigation was that it determined that there was no evidence that any document was missing.

    Obama's Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was BORN IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

    NO WONDER all those congressmen and senators and Republican presidential candidates think that Obama was born in Hawaii. They think that the world is round too, and that 2+1=3.

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  2. Dear Anonymous: Thanks for the comments, even though anonymously. First of all, I just want to point out that the article I linked you to was not related to my comment about the birth certificate and I was not claiming that it was or that the Times had said anything about that. And secondly, the long-form that the White House has produced has been proven to be a total forgery. Thanks for writing. I don't care where B.O. was born (I don't think it was the U.S.) but he needs to go -- that's my whole point.

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  3. Anonymous19/7/11 12:02

    Only birthers consider that the IMAGE of the birth certificate, which is a lousy image done after repeated copyings and in PDF, a "forgery."

    WND, which has a corresponent at the White House, could have asked to see the physical copy of the long-form birth certificate. But it didn't--for very obvious reasons. There is nothing wrong with the paper copy, only the image looks wrong. IF WND asked to see the official copy of the long-form birth certificate, with the seal and the signature, and showed it to a recognized document expert, the chance of that expert saying that it was forged is NIL.

    So, that is the obvious reason that WND has not asked to see it.

    Obama was born in Hawaii, as his two birth certificates and the confirmations of the three Republican officials, and the notices in the newspapers in 1961 all show.

    The way to get rid of him is to vote against him in the 2012 and to support his opponents. But, don't lie about his place of birth. First, it is immoral to lie. Second, the evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii is so overwhelming that people will laugh at you. Third, it would lose the Independent voters--who get irritated when they are lied to.

    The conservatives will do well enough without lying.

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  4. Thanks again anonymous. I find it interesting. I as an individual have still not seen "sufficient evidence" -- both documented and verbal (in fact, all the secrecy has driven me the other way).

    I am not lying about his birth. I just do not 'yet' believe we have evidence he is a legitimate White House occupier as per the existing constitution.

    I do agree lying is immoral. But who's lying?

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  5. Anonymous19/7/11 16:43

    Ah! So you believe that there is a reasonable possiblity that Obama was born outside of the USA, despite:

    1. Obama has now shown both his short-form and long-form birth certificates, which THREE Republican officials in Hawaii have stated are accurate regarding the place of birth. (If you would like me to show the text of the statements by the officials, I'd be glad to.)

    2. There were notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961. The claim that the notices could have been placed by lying relatives turns out to be false because whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.

    3. IF a child is born outside of the USA, the US insists on either a US visa on a foreign passport or the child being entered on his mother's US passport before being allowed to enter the USA. If such a document existed for Obama in 1961--PARTICULARLY if the birth was in Kenya--it would have been filed away, and the application for it would have been filed away--and the document itself or the application for it would have been found long ago.

    4. WND reported that the US Immigration and Naturalization Service checked on Obama's place of birth TWICE, with five years between the two checks, and each time it concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii. WND then asked how the INS concluded that fact. The answer to that question is obvious. What does the INS normally do to check the place of birth? It asks for the birth certificate. So the US government, the US INS, in the 1960s and 1970s asked to see Obama's birth certificate, saw it, and concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Also, there is NO Kenyan document even showing that Obama's mother was in Kenya in 1961. And WND recently reported that the conclusion of Kenya's investigation was that it determined that there was no evidence that any document was missing.

    Obama's Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was BORN IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

    There is even a witness who recalls being told of Obama's birth in 1961 by the head of the Obstetrics Department at Kapillani Hospital. (There is a birther claim that he had retired before 1961, but that turns out to be FALSE.)

    In other words, there is PLENTY of proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, and no proof that he was born anywhere else. So, to say that you still believe that Obama could have been born outside of the USA requires a strong leap of faith. Do you also believe in the Tooth Fairy?

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  6. Sorry, anonymous, but I don't believe in people who choose to be anonymous on such issues. I still maintain this matter is in no way settled to my satisfaction. Can you live with that? Try.

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